Curse

bscit · Feb 11, 2012, 01:28 AM // 01:28

I am using is:

SF
Shroud of Distress
IAU
AoE
MB
Sliver
EBSoH
DC

Ive read some other posts from people (they are pretty inactive now) that they switch out MB and sometimes AoE for skills like FH and Vipers Defense or Technobabble. I can never do ToS if i switch these skills out but if I dont,
I finish to slowly. Like 32mins. When i get to ToS, i try to aggro 3 Abyssals at a time if im not using MB. Am I doing something wrong? And seeing that Abyssals do Blunt Damage, IIRC, should i put on Vanguards Armor?

paranon · Feb 11, 2012, 10:54 AM // 10:54

With that bar T1 is possible in 15-20mins, i would say the most important thing to do is to work on vanguard ranks so you deal more dmg, and watch vids on youtube to see the fastest way of doing stuff. Swapping out skills is really only for people who have already mastered normal T1

AndrewSX · Feb 11, 2012, 12:19 PM // 12:19

Stick with AoE and MB, and just practice your tactics and such. Using the other skills you listed requires as said almost complete and perfect knowledge of the role, plus pcons, and still is a pointless dangerous bar to run (at least for pugging and normal runs).

Mig Coconut · Feb 11, 2012, 04:24 PM // 16:24

Even with a "slow" bar and derp spawns T1 shouldn't take longer than 25 min. Your tactics are probably bad. Work on getting better times then you can try more advanced stuff.

Tips: Use a spear and throw between casts. Know the distance sliver hits so you can "target" a particular enemy. Unless you have a ton of aggro, it's generally better to kill one guy at a time. Place your ward well so you can switch enemies easily. Be sure to get a high ebon rank. For abyssals, right wall block them so they don't run away (doing this properly will dramatically decrease your time). For killing the rangers at ToS, if they are bunched up tightly break them by running back towards burning forest. Then you can reaggro them in groups of two or so for more efficient slivering.

There's lots of good vids on youtube.

bscit · Feb 13, 2012, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Thanks for the advice. By switching to blunt armor and a shield, I am able to do ToS without AoE. So i am taking out AoE since i dont need it anymore. Do you guys have any suggestions to put in? I am currently using Vipers Defense, but I read in other posts that snowstorm works well but i find that it scatters the abyssals too much and Rad field also takes to much energy.

Mig Coconut · Feb 14, 2012, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Energy shouldn't be a problem... you are using a zealous scythe right?

bscit · Feb 14, 2012, 03:00 AM // 03:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mig Coconut

Energy shouldn't be a problem... you are using a zealous scythe right?

No im using a blunt shield along with a zealous spear for the extra armor so i can survive without AoE.

paranon · Feb 14, 2012, 10:54 AM // 10:54

keep AoE, taking it out won't save you any time if you are going at 32min, just increase ebon rank and watch a video and you will speed up.

loshon · Feb 14, 2012, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by paranon

keep AoE, taking it out won't save you any time

Yeup, keep your AoE and use a Piercing shield as the rangers do the most damage at ToS. Switch to scythe when your sliver is up and whack things + rad field. That will take your time down more than anything else.

Random Namos · Feb 18, 2012, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by loshon

Switch to scythe when your sliver is up and whack things + rad field.

Can you still do bigpull doing this method/radfield?

loshon · Feb 21, 2012, 07:48 AM // 07:48

Bigpull without a few pcons is a bit stressed imo, at least for pug runs. You can get crit spiked if you're not careful, but on the other hand it can work well sometimes. Just experiment, honestly. There are a million ways to do it.

Random Namos · Feb 21, 2012, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by loshon

Bigpull without a few pcons is a bit stressed imo, at least for pug runs. You can get crit spiked if you're not careful, but on the other hand it can work well sometimes. Just experiment, honestly. There are a million ways to do it.

okay, first few tries horribly failed

First half of tos is okay, but when i do the second half of the abyssals i somehow take too much damage.. Cupcake, Candy corn and Candy apple used.

any tips on using a build without mentals?

Dont Tell Dave · Feb 22, 2012, 01:29 AM // 01:29

Spam Shroud for the extra -damage, you should be in either vanguards or infiltrators, if you do all that you should be fine, Sliver + iau +aoe should be all you need to survive bigpull